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Daniel Greco's avatar

I agree with all this. Though I think a corollary is that whether an argument begs the question isn't something you can straightforwardly read off from the argument itself; it depends on the intended audience. One and the same argument might beg the question against some audiences, but not others. I think that's part of what makes it easy to have disputes like the original one on twitter; people may differ a lot in what audiences they're imagining for some argument.

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You assume that begging the question makes an argument bad, but I deny this.

> “Well, even if (2) is false, what makes this a good argument is that it makes dialectical progress.

You assume that good arguments need a possibility of making dialectical progress. I accept that question-begging arguments have no possibility of making dialectical progress. However, your view requires a substantive metaphilosophical assumption that dialectical progress is possible. I am convinced that on many (perhaps most) philosophical issues, dialectical progress is by and large impossible. In other words, there is no way to resolve these philosophical issues through purely epistemic considerations. If dialectical progress is not possible, then it's not obvious that good arguments must even have a possibility of rationally persuading someone who is not antecedently inclined to accept the position.

Second, we rationally do or may hold beliefs based on question-begging arguments. I believe my memory is reliable. Here is an argument to that effect. If my memory is reliable, then I remember a lot of what has happened in my past. My memory is reliable, so I remember a lot of what has happened in the past. I accept this argument, but it begs the question because it won’t convince someone who doesn’t already accept the reliability of memory in general. This argument won’t convince the Pyrrhonist. But if any belief is rational, my beliefs about the past are rational even though they presuppose the reliability of my memory.

> “This is what good arguments do: they move things forward, by showing that there are other, independent considerations that should move you towards my side.”

My concern is that sometimes there are no independent considerations that could move my opponent over towards my side. Think of the radical skeptic, the irrationalist, or the trivialist. If a proponent of these views is sufficiently radical, there will be literally nothing you have in common. The problem with saying that begging the question is bad is that it assumes that you must be able to convince other people based on commonalities. But I deny this. If we cannot we cannot legitimately beg the question against some people, then what do you say to the radical skeptic?

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